It’s not so much an experience of being outside them, as it is about looking for the experiencer. What is aware of thoughts, feelings, perceptions, and sensations? That is not itself a thought, feeling, perception, or sensation, is it?
What is aware of thoughts, feelings, and perceptions is itself a thought, an awareness thought, if you like. Being this body mind process named Paula, I don’t see what else it could be.
And I really appreciate you talking about finding what resonates! “Seeing No-Self” for me has turned into “Seeing No Separate Self”. Not sure why. I believe it has occurred as part of this phrase/formula which kind of blew me away and pointed to the no-thing: not two ≠ one 🤷♂️
Yes, that danger is conditioned thought and is also ever-present! The good news is that although it can’t be stopped, believing thought/conceptualization is optional.
I am reading and sitting with your book for a while ~ I appreciate that the book is not instructional or overly conceptual but asks you to look to your own experience, to question your own phenomenology. Teaching without being taught is a challenging balance and this book walks that balance well. Thank you. 🙏David.
Here it has been seeing that I am not the doer of deeds or thinker of thoughts. As you say, the illusion of volition.
Of course, it wasn’t something I was trying to see. It came out of suffering that required me to pay attention to thoughts and sensations every waking hour to survive before it was noticed that thoughts and sensations were showing up out of nowhere and in ways that had no correlation with what was going on in the moment.
It sure wasn’t astute penetrating spiritual depth and insight. It was blue collar get your ass kicked, and get back up on a regular basis as incentive to maybe look at what was actually going on.
It was only after almost 12 years and running into you “apparently” “coincidentally” and Paul Smit that the light bulb went off that this I had been noticing had implications in every day life.
You think?
Sheesh! 😊
Nothing like the painfully slow approach.
Obviously, I am more than certain this isn’t done. Hopefully, it will be less punishing.
Thank you! I am feeling better. I ordered your book “Seeing No Self”. You and Salvador with your inquiries are getting me grounded and out of being mesmerized by concepts and descriptions. I needed more sky and less clouds.
You and Salvador are like the WWF tag team Champions of Nonduality. 😁
In the silence in my mind, I find nothing and then everything if only for an instant. I am simply being.
How is it possible to have a direct experience of being outside of thoughts, feelings, perceptions, and sensations? 🙏
It’s not so much an experience of being outside them, as it is about looking for the experiencer. What is aware of thoughts, feelings, perceptions, and sensations? That is not itself a thought, feeling, perception, or sensation, is it?
What is aware of thoughts, feelings, and perceptions is itself a thought, an awareness thought, if you like. Being this body mind process named Paula, I don’t see what else it could be.
Well, it doesn't even matter as long as you try to look there, experience whatever it is. ☺️
Thanks very much, Kat.
Allowing without any story, sensations exactly as they feel, like accepting sunshine or water.
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Wonderful writing - thank you Kat 🙏
And I really appreciate you talking about finding what resonates! “Seeing No-Self” for me has turned into “Seeing No Separate Self”. Not sure why. I believe it has occurred as part of this phrase/formula which kind of blew me away and pointed to the no-thing: not two ≠ one 🤷♂️
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See when it occurs to you
To see. That is the ritual.
For if you see repeatedly
It soon becomes habitual.
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Everything is a thing, that is the ground of thought, what springs from that ground is the thing.
ABC or DEF, QPS or XYZ.
All the words, shapes, forms and their meanings, are the thing.
And we are not talking about a damn 'thing'.
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Love this!
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Practical and to the point. Love this!!
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Nice!
Another ABC I came across years ago was "A Bigger Container".
Whatever is being experienced (physically or imagined) is unfolding with that (ABC).
Useful, I think. Up to a point.
The danger: attempting to conceptualise the unconceptualisable as ABC...
Yes, that danger is conditioned thought and is also ever-present! The good news is that although it can’t be stopped, believing thought/conceptualization is optional.
I consistently find your posts valuable and very helpful. Thank you Kat x
Please keep the audio coming too 🙏🏻
That’s good to know, thank you.
I am reading and sitting with your book for a while ~ I appreciate that the book is not instructional or overly conceptual but asks you to look to your own experience, to question your own phenomenology. Teaching without being taught is a challenging balance and this book walks that balance well. Thank you. 🙏David.
Thank you for letting me know! I'm happy the book is helpful to you.
Here it has been seeing that I am not the doer of deeds or thinker of thoughts. As you say, the illusion of volition.
Of course, it wasn’t something I was trying to see. It came out of suffering that required me to pay attention to thoughts and sensations every waking hour to survive before it was noticed that thoughts and sensations were showing up out of nowhere and in ways that had no correlation with what was going on in the moment.
It sure wasn’t astute penetrating spiritual depth and insight. It was blue collar get your ass kicked, and get back up on a regular basis as incentive to maybe look at what was actually going on.
It was only after almost 12 years and running into you “apparently” “coincidentally” and Paul Smit that the light bulb went off that this I had been noticing had implications in every day life.
You think?
Sheesh! 😊
Nothing like the painfully slow approach.
Obviously, I am more than certain this isn’t done. Hopefully, it will be less punishing.
Thank you! 🙏
I hope that for you too.
Thank you for your comment.
Thank you! I am feeling better. I ordered your book “Seeing No Self”. You and Salvador with your inquiries are getting me grounded and out of being mesmerized by concepts and descriptions. I needed more sky and less clouds.
You and Salvador are like the WWF tag team Champions of Nonduality. 😁
That’s a Beautiful thing! 🙏