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K Elaine's avatar

“is no longer transparent” in post versus “but is now transparent” in comment reply….

Saying the same thing? Sounds kinda opposite but maybe I’m missing something…?

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Kat van Oudheusden's avatar

Thank you ! You're absolutely right, I edited the comment.

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K Elaine's avatar

“Dying before you die is the moment the simulation is no longer transparent”. ? …Could you elaborate please, Kat. Are you meaning zero experience of “simulation”? (In this experience it has briefly fallen away completely —- but in general is “there” though can be “seen through” (“transparent”?) and at times opaque for a spell and believed)

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Kat van Oudheusden's avatar

Exactly as you describe, it is still there but is no longer transparent to us. The game is up. We've seen the Matrix as the Matrix although we're still firmly inside it.

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Matthew Sutcliffe's avatar

Death before Life.

Much to recommend this, Kat.

Also the putative title for THAT book.

Yes, I am laughing too.

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Barry Kibel's avatar

Herein lies Barry Kibel. May he rest in peace.

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Barry Kibel's avatar

Curiously, the solution to today's Wordle was "dirge". A simulation with a sense of humor!

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Karl Stott's avatar

The “I” here is not afraid of death, on the contrary, it looks forward to it, but the body vessel seems to want to continue, and it seems to mostly run by itself, just needs food, water, hygiene and exercise.

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Content Carrier ('CC')'s avatar

🙏 Still, this is it. Life/death? Meh.

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Paul Watt's avatar

Excellent Kat, thank you. So basically, it all seems to be about association. At the moment I 100% associate my”self” with the brain generated simulation instead of the background, ever present presence/awareness. Is this the “witness” people talk about? Then of course, ultimately, it goes beyond the “witness” too. Am I in the right ball park here? The problem for me is that I can’t even begin to imagine what not associating with the simulation feels like, or how on earth that could ever come about. Extremely frustrating…😢

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Kat van Oudheusden's avatar

If we would know exactly HOW seeing through the simulation reliably comes about, then we wouldn't have all the various paths and schools of spiritual development we have now. So I believe we really don't know and most will simply tell you to do what helped them in some form.

Having said that, I will now tell you what helped me 😂 and hundreds of others. The simulation can become more and more visible to us by noticing it in direct experience through direct nondual inquiry. We don't notice the simulation because we are constantly looking through it instead of directly AT it. But if we know how to look, then we can see it. This is the content of the book Seeing No-Self, with the 33 ways of looking that help us notice the simulation.

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Robin Greenspan's avatar

"We don't notice the simulation because we are constantly looking through it instead of directly AT it." ❤️

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Barbara Walker's avatar

"Constantly looking through it (the simulation) instead of directly AT it": NOW, NOW, NOW and NOW. Seems to happen outside of time.

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Kat van Oudheusden's avatar

Yes, by no one.

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Barbara Walker's avatar

"by no one": so much relief (for no one)!

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Tim Downes's avatar

One line that says it all… SEEING No-Self.

No me to have a problem.

Simply Aware

Rather than a me being witness, a doer or a thinker.

🙏🏻

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Terry Cooke-Davies's avatar

“How can a character in a story worry about its plotline?” And how can a ripple in a wave die, when the sea persists?

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