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Kat van Oudheusden's avatar

I recommend finding out in experience instead of figuring out what the non-dual answer would be

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Aaron's avatar

Isn’t the self awareness manifest in the form of a body-mind? There is no self apart from the awareness that it is. Non-duality doesn’t deny the existence of the self does it? The illusion is simply that the self is separate from awareness.

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Ian Haycroft's avatar

Thanks Kat. Clear bell of what is.

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Barbara Schutt's avatar

This is sort of like the Buddhist concept of "emptiness", the idea that all things are impermanent and dependent on other things. There is no "self" or perhaps it is the ego. Just as the self must label all things, ie. a tree. The tree is just a tree that we've labeled but it is so much more; it is the earth, sun, rain, and wind all incorporated into "tree". We label "self". Who is "We"?

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Content Carrier ('CC')'s avatar

"The world was over today

The time is already gone

Throw your mind in the sea

Eternity doesn't last very long

There's some people on Earth

They live in separate minds

Dissolve your body today

There is no in or outside"

Swans - Mind/Body/Light/Sound

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY6qjHrJJHQ

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Claudia's avatar

That's also beautiful 🌟

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David Smith's avatar

The thing is : I remained me when I had an OBE many years ago. i also had an experience when my father was having an OBE and I saw his solid shadow sitting in his normal chair at the table early in the morning getting up at 4.00am to go surfing as a teenager. My personal OBE felt more real than normal 3D existence and I kept my “ body” looking exactly from my POA at my hands body etc , I was shocked and thought to myself “ I better jump back in case I get possessed by another entity ( pre programmed cultural fear) so there is still a self when you leave , just more lucid than our Cartesian reality.

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Kat van Oudheusden's avatar

I don't know about OBEs because I haven't had one. In any case, I am also saying there is still a self: "what before was considered to be a person (body + actions) continues"

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Ed x Felk's avatar

Continuing only, exists. "Now I would like to talk about our zazen posture. When

you sit in the full lotus position, your left foot is on your right

thigh, and your right foot is on your left thigh. When we

cross our legs like this, even though we have a right leg and

a left leg, they have become one. The position expresses the

oneness of duality: not two, and not one. This is the most

important teaching: not two, and not one. Our body and

mind are not two and not one. If you think your body and

mind are two, that is wrong; if you think that they are one,

that is also wrong. Our body and mind are both two and one.

We usually think that if something is not one, it is more than

one; if it is not singular, it is plural. But in actual experience,

our life is not only plural, but also singular. Each one of us

is both dependent and independent." Shunryu Suzuki

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David Smith's avatar

Yin Yang :)

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David Smith's avatar

Absolutely , there is a young man who teaches a method to be able to do it at will ! I am very intrigued by Darius J Wright. When he talks about more real than real that resonated with my experience also ! I still resonate with the non self as we are definitely a fractal of the one mind playing “ David” :)

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Nicole's avatar

So clear. TXS

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Gean van Erp's avatar

We create problems and we solve them by realizing there is no self and no problem, nice👍

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Tim Downes's avatar

🫥

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Tim Downes's avatar

It IS the solution to all problems.

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